Legislature(2007 - 2008)BUTROVICH 205

05/07/2007 04:00 PM Senate RESOURCES


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+ HB 87 CITIZEN ADVISORY COMM ON FEDERAL AREAS TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHB 87(FIN)am Out of Committee
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+= HB 220 BAN COMPUTER-ASSISTED REMOTE HUNTING TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHB 220(JUD) Out of Committee
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+= SB 57 MARINE PARKS ADDITIONS/HUNTING ALLOWED TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSSB 57(RES) Out of Committee
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+= SJR 4 NATURAL GAS FOR STATE RESIDENTS TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSSJR 4(RES) Out of Committee
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+= HJR 4 KENAI/KASILOF SUBSISTENCE PRIORITY TELECONFERENCED
Moved SCS CSHJR 4(RES) Out of Committee
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+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
                                                                                                                              
       CSHB 220(JUD)-BAN COMPUTER-ASSISTED REMOTE HUNTING                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:21:48 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  HUGGINS  announced  to  be  up  for  consideration.  [CSHB
220(JUD) was before the committee.]                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE BOB BUCH, sponsor of  HB 220, said this bill talks                                                               
about Internet  hunting, which is  when a people anywhere  in the                                                               
world can  shoot animals  from their living  rooms by  aiming and                                                               
firing a rifle from a computer  keypad and making the kill with a                                                               
click of a mouse.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
This bill does  three things. It would  prohibit individuals from                                                               
engaging in Internet hunting in  Alaska, it would prohibit anyone                                                               
from providing services  or operating facilities in  the state to                                                               
enable  computerized hunting  activities,  and  finally it  would                                                               
make  sure   that  future  technology  designed   to  assist  the                                                               
legitimate needs  of handicapped or  disabled hunters out  in the                                                               
woods  would not  be subject  the ban  otherwise created  in this                                                               
bill.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE BUCH said  HB 220 has a broad  spectrum of support                                                               
including  the Humane  Society,  the  National Rifle  Association                                                               
(NRA), the Society  for Prevention of Cruelty  to Animals (SPCA),                                                               
hunting organizations and the Alaska  Department of Fish and Game                                                               
(ADF&G).  One   person  in  this  building   had  objections  [he                                                               
indicated Senator Wielechowski].                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:23:31 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR WAGONER asked  if he were a rancher with  his own herd of                                                               
buffalo, why wouldn't he be able  to hunt like that. He said most                                                               
of the  instances they are  talking about occur on  private land,                                                               
but with resources that are owned by the state.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE BUCH answered:                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     We object  to the fact  that they are using  it through                                                                    
     the Internet;  that they're using a  technology and our                                                                    
     objection is that  they are not doing it  in person and                                                                    
     care-taking  for that  critter,  whatever that  critter                                                                    
     is. There is a certain  relevance there to that animal.                                                                    
     And it  is a complete  disregard to that animal  and to                                                                    
     those of us who participate  in the fair chase sport of                                                                    
     hunting.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
JOE KLUTSCH,  Alaska Professional Hunters  Association, supported                                                               
HB  220. He  said  using  the Internet  it  is  not hunting.  His                                                               
members  are  committed  to  fair  chase  hunting  practices  and                                                               
ethical standards of conduct. He stated:                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     The organization  of killing animals by  cyberspace and                                                                    
     robotics  is not  hunting. True  hunting  is a  problem                                                                    
     solving exercise  that involves planning,  knowledge of                                                                    
     the species being pursued, its  habitat. The hunter has                                                                    
     to  be  prepared  to  cope with  all  the  elements  in                                                                    
     nature, and  particularly in Alaska. It  involves real-                                                                    
     life drama  that involves doubt,  frustration, anxiety,                                                                    
     discovery,  great physical  and  mental challenge,  joy                                                                    
     and disappointment.  And the outcome of  the process is                                                                    
     by  no means  assured. That's  what fair  chase hunting                                                                    
     is.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR.  KLUTSCH  said this  bill  follows  the  lead of  many  other                                                               
states.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:27:01 PM                                                                                                                    
ROD ARNO,  Alaska Outdoor Council,  supported HB 220.  He pointed                                                               
out that advertisements for Internet  hunting say it can save you                                                               
days  in  the  field,  but  that is  just  what  the  Council  is                                                               
advocating - days in the field.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:27:24 PM                                                                                                                    
BOB  FITHIAN, Executive  Director,  Alaska Professional  Hunter's                                                               
Association,  deferred to  Mr. Klutsch's  testimony and  followed                                                               
with a  few other comments.  He supported  HB 220 saying  that it                                                               
seeks  to stop  hunting that  doesn't  have any  concept of  fair                                                               
chase,  wilderness lore,  or  stewardship  and develops  unneeded                                                               
anti-hunting sentiment.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR STEVENS asked Representative Buch to explain line 10.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE BUCH answered that  organizations like the "Make a                                                               
Wish Foundation"  provide a  final wish  for disabled  people who                                                               
are dying  and he wasn't  going to  create a ban  on technologies                                                               
that assist those people.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:29:21 PM                                                                                                                    
MATT ROBUS,  Director, Division of Wildlife  Conservation, Alaska                                                               
Department of  Fish and  Game (ADF&G),  said that  the department                                                               
supported the  bill and that  the House  amended it to  deal with                                                               
his concern. At first it  couldn't have possibly been interpreted                                                               
to  allow somebody  to remain  at  their residence  and use  this                                                               
technology in order to take an animal if they had disabilities.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
He said the department has a  very long and successful history of                                                               
accommodating persons with disabilities  to allow equal access to                                                               
the extent  possible to hunting  opportunity. In fact,  the Board                                                               
of Game has delegated through  regulation to the division the job                                                               
of granting  methods and means  and exemptions to  allow somebody                                                               
with  a disability  to use  a method  not used  under the  normal                                                               
hunting regulations.  This has  been backed up  by the  state ADA                                                               
coordinator in that the person  in that situation has always been                                                               
required to make  some sort of active attempt to  go to the field                                                               
and  participate in  the taking  of  the animal.  The bill  still                                                               
requires the person with a disability  to be present in the field                                                               
making a meaningful attempt to participate in the hunt.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR STEVENS asked if this is a minimal issue.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR. ROBUS replied yes  and it would be applied on  a case by case                                                               
basis and  be based  on a  person's ability  to participate  in a                                                               
hunt.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:31:45 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR STEVENS moved  to pass CSHB 220(JUD)  from committee with                                                               
individual recommendations  and attached fiscal note.  There were                                                               
no objections and it was so ordered.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                

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